otjunky
Old Time Spoons Player
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Post by otjunky on Jan 16, 2008 17:02:38 GMT
I did some research on Don Richardson - some corrections. Richardson was not from Kentucky - but from North Carolina and was apparently classically trained. He moved to New York in 1910 - at the age of 32 - where he played with several orchestras and where he likely recorded for Columbia Records - eventually wiinding up on the faculty at Queen's College. Given the number of fiddle tunes he recorded and the rendering of them, it seems like a safe bet he learned'em in North Carolina. But it also seems like reasonable people could differ on whether or not Richardson qualifies as a "country musician". So Eck Roberton's 1922 date may still hold as the earliest recording by a country fiddler. His biography is here www.geocities.com/fiddlindon/biography.htmlThis last link again provided by a member on another forum...
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Post by dulcimike on Jan 16, 2008 20:34:13 GMT
I did some research on Don Richardson - some corrections. Richardson was not from Kentucky - but from North Carolina and was apparently classically trained. He moved to New York in 1910 - at the age of 32 - where he played with several orchestras and where he likely recorded for Columbia Records - eventually wiinding up on the faculty at Queen's College. Given the number of fiddle tunes he recorded and the rendering of them, it seems like a safe bet he learned'em in North Carolina. But it also seems like reasonable people could differ on whether or not Richardson qualifies as a "country musician". So Eck Roberton's 1922 date may still hold as the earliest recording by a country fiddler. For one definition / description of country fiddlers, go here and scroll down to near the bottom of the page fer a wee poem aboot "The Country Fiddlers".
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Post by Ptarmigan on Jan 16, 2008 23:54:44 GMT
Of course we all know that a Fiddler is really: "Fiddler - an unskilled person who tries to fix or mend or - a person who lacks technical training" Cheers Dick
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Post by john on Jan 26, 2008 14:33:12 GMT
1850 five years after the potato famine began, 20 percent of Chicagos population was Irish. The Music of Ireland was published in 1903. 1,850 tunes collected by O`Neill. Chicago. When Cecil Sharp recorded Southern singers he found that they sang many modern songs as well as the traditional ballads dating back many centuries. When they sang the modern songs they changed them so they sounded like a folksong. Oh, Susanna is not a folksong. It is written by Stephen Foster The guitar had a big impact on white music. Modern harmonies and rhythms. The black guitarists were able to preserve their own sense of harmony, scale and rhythm . Doc. Walsh of The CAROLINA TAR HEELS was called The Banjo King of The Carolinas and his partner guitarist Garley Foster was called the human bird. They entertained people with old time Southern Songs mingled with the latest Broadway Hits. The Skillet Lickers used to perform It´s a long way to Tipperary and Dark Town Strutters Ball. Fiddlin John Carson was also a circus barker, moonshiner and a medicine showman. He recorded The Old Hen Cackled And The Roosters Going to Crow. And the rest is history. Sam McGee´s recording of Easy Rider on the six string banjo-guitar is a stunning performance. His duets with Macon are higly regarded as some of the best in banjo duos. cheers, John
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Post by john on Jan 29, 2008 15:37:18 GMT
and Jimmie Rodgers played tenor banjo in a 4 piece banjo-guitar band named Jimmie Rodgers Entertainers. and Sonny Osborne is the master of 6 string banjo. and Stovepipe No. 1 recorded Cripple Creek, Sourwood Mountain, Turkey in The Straw,Arkansas Traveler Dixie Barn Dance Dan Tucker and many blues and religious numbers on guitar and stovepipe. Daddy Stovepipe is another musician and one crazy band name SMITH`S CHAMPION HOSS HAIR PULLERS,DR cheers, John
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Post by john on Jan 30, 2008 16:08:49 GMT
and the first price goes to Louis Wilson`s Old Time Fiddlers from Knoxville, Tennesee a fourteen piece string band. Consisted of one drummer, three guitarists, one banjo player, one keyboard player, 2 cello players and 6 fiddlers. One of them Mr. Lee Irwin champion old time fiddler in several states. That is what I call a string band. cheers, John
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Post by john on Jan 30, 2008 20:11:38 GMT
and Thomas Jefferson played the fiddle. and Governor Bob Taylor Senator Albert Gore,Sr. and Senator Robert Byrd West Virginia. and it is easier to build a banjo than a violin. a photo taken in 1887 near Morgantown shows a string band with 3 banjos, one guitar, very early, one tater bug mandolin, one fiddle played with a six shooter. Who dares to complain bout the music? cheers, John ps. did you know that 5.30 in the Morning is an early American folk song?
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Post by dulcimike on Jan 30, 2008 21:26:22 GMT
and ps. did you know that 5.30 in the Morning is an early American folk song? Sounds pretty early no matter where it is.
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Post by john on Feb 9, 2008 13:39:57 GMT
and did you know that the bodran, the Irish hand drum is best played with a knife.(Seamus Ennis) and a major force in early American folk music was religion. and the American way of singing was less ornamented than the Irish and English and the banjo did not gain favor in the southern mountains until the late 19th century and no other musician has bridged the gap between tradition and revival more successfully than Jean Ritchie. and Frank Proffitt, the man from whom the song Tom Dooley was collected, never saw a fraction of the riches that was made off his material. And he had a lot. and that he was struggling to provide his kids with school books. and John Lomax was paid one dollar a month for his job at The Smithsonian. But he had access to all the goodies recorded and collected.
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Post by john on Feb 10, 2008 12:09:14 GMT
and the Friends of Old Time Music brought to New York and other cities of the Northeast the very best in obscure country musicians and a ballad is a dance with singing. Telling a story. and Frank Proffitt was a very fine banjo and dolcimore builder and Hardanger is pronounced Hardinger and a bass violin has 6,7 and eight strings. Not 4 or 5 and you seldom see a hurdy-gurdy in the Ozarks and the mountain dulcimer is what they call Nordische Balk in Holland and in Sweden a Hummel and in London at the Victoria and Albert Museum you can find a gourd banjo build in the year 1840 in London and in the 1860th they made a lot of 7 stringed banjos in England. 6 string and the drone and in Copenhagen you can see a Psalmodicon made in Sweden at the beginning of the 19th century. and who cares!
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Post by john on Feb 10, 2008 12:17:22 GMT
and Cecil Sharp often wished he had been born at an earlier age when English folk songs was in its prime. and his wish was fulfilled in a sense when he in the Southern Appalachian Mountains found the collectors paradise and he spend 46 weeks in the mountains 1916-18 and he collected together with Maude Karpeles nearly 1600 tunes
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Post by john on Feb 17, 2008 12:43:10 GMT
and Bascom Lamar Lunsford, legendary performer and collector always asked people he did not know,"are you a Communist" and they called him "Bar Steward Lampoon Lunchfart" and the former hobo and the auhor of Big Rock Candy Mountain and Hallelujah , I` m a Bum joned the Happy Go Lucky network in 38. and Texas Ruby died in the flames when her camper burned down. and Alan Lomax launched his first radio show 1939, part of CBS American School of The Air and Ralph Rinzler played a vital role in the resurrection of old time performers and in the nineteenth century, the question of the origin of bowing became increasingly prominent and Fetis held that direct links must have existed between Indian and Northern European bowed instruments because of racial affinities between Indian peoples and the Celtic tribes of North-West Europe who brought the bow with them on their immigration from Asia. and thank God that David played the Harp and not Banjo. and a fiddle player is called a fideler in Danish. Fele in Norwegian. and Hurdy-Gurdy playing reached it`s peak in development abot 1200 and the Japanese Gidayu shamisen comes very very very close to the the banjar, banjo as we now it. and the Gaka-Daiko is a drum and Sarugaku means Monky Music and the Ainu natives of northern Japan creates strange effects by singing into each others mouths. and the Japanese answer to the Zither is called a Wagon. A very long Dulcimer. and there is no evidence that playing in positions, as it is known todays violin technique, was practised in early days. and Jesse Fewkes would change the course of American anthropology by using the phonogram as a tool for recording oral traditions and archiving recorded sound was initially a European idea. and in 1899 a Viennese physiologist founded the Phonogramm-Archiv of the Akademie der Wissenshaften and a year later the Berlin Phonogramm-Archiv was established and Pythagoras played a version of Hammered Dulcimer. Strings kept in tune by the weight of stones. and that is how he discovered the diatonic scale and music connects us with the soul
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Post by Ptarmigan on Feb 17, 2008 13:34:47 GMT
Fascinating as always John, thanks.
Nowadays, folks are more likely to just play the Hammered Dulcimer when they're stoned! ;D
Cheers Dick
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Post by john on Feb 19, 2008 11:16:58 GMT
and the treble violin had six strings and then we have the trompet marine, one and two stringed model. The wash tub does not stand a chance and at the Museo Municipal de Musica in Barcelona you can see a Theorbo build by Magno Tiefffenbrucker. 32 stringed model de Luxe. When we play we play!! and Hobart Smith also played the violin and guitar and Frank Proffitt played the fretless banjo and it took years before Mr. Monroe got his tomb stone and there were at least eight fiddlers at the Newport Festival 1966 and John Sebastian plays a very fine harmonica and Young Tradition were old when they started and Tom Paxton once said: The World is not all that we want, although there is much worth savoring. But tomorrows newspaper is enough to make a man angry, enough to make him speak out, if not in anger, then to at least laugh the evil ones off the map. cheers, John
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Post by deleuran on Feb 19, 2008 14:14:34 GMT
...and John Sebastians father was a famous harmonica player.
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Post by john on Mar 2, 2008 15:53:29 GMT
and Johann Sebastian Bach`s great grandfather was a miller. Veit was his firstname. and a Dogdog is a drum from Java andFontomfrom is a large drum from Ghana and a Kannel is a hollow tree trunk surmounted by a flat soundboard with half a dozen plucked strings. and the Chinese art of handbell ringing has largely died out. and in 1972 the Swedish composer Sven Erik Emanuel Johanson wrote a concerto for hurdy-gurdy and orchestra and the common types of Viol are the treble, the tenor and the bass and the erliest violins were not held on the shoulders and the bow was small and convex and Dactylmonocordo was invented by Guida from Napoli ca. 1877. A finger -one -string. An aid for music pupils and a stamping stick is a hollow drumstick producing resonance. Good for Mountain Music. cheers, John and
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Post by john on Mar 2, 2008 16:41:31 GMT
and the southern parts of The Blueridge Mountains which forms a part of the Appalachians has massive peaks of over 5000feet. The settlers took the name from the blue haze hanging over it. and chitlins is pork large intestine eat it as a kind of offal meat. and grits is coarsely ground mominy prepared as a mush with breakfast in the South. With butter or gravy. and half-way backs are Northeners who moved to Florida and moved half-way-back up the coast, especially to North Carolina and joggling board is a long bench on rockers used in the days of porch courting and Piedmont Blues is a kind of ragtime-influenced blues. Popular in North Carolina in the 1930th. and Tarheels are North Carolina natives. cheers, John and
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Post by john on Mar 8, 2008 21:43:52 GMT
and abangarang is a Beta song accompanying lyre and Aboio is Brazilian cowboy cattle-herding song genre featuring the imitation of cattle and anthem is Bahamian religious song genre closely related to the spiritual of slaves and other blacks from the southern United States and apagado is a Stopped .. guitar-strumming technique and a Ason is a Haitian gourd covered with beads and Atavu are dance steps in Tamil Nadu and Fedede is a Tumtum Nuba five stringed lyre of the Sudan and a fedel is a Danish stringed instrument of the violin family and Fangpaige is the raft worker´songs in China and Gagalo are 3 meters stilts used by dancers at a Yorba harvest festival in Nigeria in honour to the town`s protectors and Gaida is a Thracian bagpipe and Gakki is the generic term for instrumenst in Japan and Taejang is a 15 stringed zither from Korea...now obsolete........ and Yaya is a Yakan lullaby and Lergøg also clay cuckoo is a version of the Danish vessel flute or clay pipe and a Bomber is a drum made by stretching a goat skin over a washing-machine barrel and Ukulele means jumping flea!! cheers, John
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Post by john on Mar 9, 2008 11:24:54 GMT
and Cecil Sharp noted years ago that the English folksinger liked to sing at the highest possible pitch and the shouting style belongs to the folk church and an independent American song tradition emerged in the 19th. century based on British forebears but influenced by the oral-formulaic methods of Afro-American singers. and studies in African music shows that the African builds his rhythms out of eight notes grouped in twos and threes and the bluegrass musician belongs to a family in which the approval of others must be consistenly sought and won all five qoutes from the book...Bluegrass Breakdown..by Robert Cantwell
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Post by deleuran on Mar 9, 2008 12:56:48 GMT
...og det er pudsigt at den vildeste musik bliver spillet på en tam tam (Storm P.) (Sorry folks it's no translatable. For John only)
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